Calif. Court Hears Arguments on Gay Troop Ban

A federal appeals court wrestled Thursday with whether it can declare the military's ban on openly gay service members unconstitutional when the "don't ask, don't tell" policy is in 19 days.

A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals heard just under 45 minutes of arguments from a lawyer for the gay rights group that successfully sued to overturn "don't ask, don't tell" in a lower court last year, and from a lawyer representing the federal government.

The U.S. Department of Justice attorney said the lower court ruling should be overturned because the ban's coming demise had rendered the case moot. "Don't ask, don't tell" is due to be repealed Sept. 20.

But Dan Woods, an attorney for the Log Cabin Republicans, told the panel it needs to weigh in on the policy's civil rights implications because lawmakers or future administrations in Washington could decide at some point to reinstate the ban.

"Our point here is that if this case does not go forward on the merits and you don't affirm it on the merits, the government will be completely unrestrained in its ability to again ban gay service in the military," Woods said. "We have multiple presidential candidates promising as part of their campaign platforms to repeal the repeal."

Declaring the law unconstitutional would also provide a legal path for thousands discharged under the policy to seek reinstatement, back pay or other compensation for having their careers cut short, Woods said.

"There are collateral consequences of 'don't ask, don't tell" that exist even after the law is repealed," he said.

Representing the government, Justice Department attorney Henry Whitaker countered that the court should not issue a decision based on speculation about what might happen in the future.

If discharged service members want to sue for reinstatement or damages, as several already have, those cases would be the appropriate venue for exploring the ban's constitutional implications, Whitaker said.

"Even today, the military is accepting applications from gay and lesbian individuals to serve in the armed forces, including from gays and lesbians who were discharged," he said, acknowledging the case will not be "technically moot" for another few weeks.

"No matter how you slice it, even today, there is no case or controversy."

Whitaker asked the panel to wait until Sept. 20 or after to issue an order dismissing the case and vacating U.S. District Court Judge Virginia Phillips' ruling from last September that found "don't ask, don't tell" violates the due process and First Amendment rights of gay service members. If the three judges do otherwise, he said, the government could appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Two of the panel's judges, Circuit Judge Dairmuid O'Scannlain of Portland and Senior Circuit Judge Arthur Alarcon of Los Angeles, gave no indication of which way they were leaning.

The third, Circuit Judge Barry Silverman of Phoenix, pressed Woods on why the court should weigh in now when the ban is weeks away from becoming history.

"You hear a lot about judicial activism, particularly here in the 9th Circuit, so I wonder if there is not a public interest in letting this case run its course," Silverman said.